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Old Nov 05, 2008, 07:15 AM // 07:15   #1
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was kinda bored last night and thought of this

Assassins Promise
You Move Like A Dwarf
Falling Lotus Strike
Twisting Fangs
Malicious Strike
I Am Unstoppable
Critical Agility
Assassins Remedy

8crit
13dag
12deadly

really nice for spike spam just not the AoE of DB/MS

well if ur bored try it out and let me know what u think

P.S. its pretty fast paced but once u get used to it's quite fun

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Old Nov 05, 2008, 09:03 AM // 09:03   #2
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YmLaD <3 on sins
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Old Nov 05, 2008, 10:18 AM // 10:18   #3
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Way of the Empty Palm
"You Move Like a Dwarf!"
Golden Phoenix Strike
HoTO
Falling Spider
Trampling Ox
Critical Agility
"Finish Him!"

Although I find ES more fun.
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Old Nov 05, 2008, 10:38 AM // 10:38   #4
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I like this one: [Sin;OwBj0te6oSLQAQ9PXhKM8Pxk1gA]

good fun ^^
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Old Nov 05, 2008, 01:24 PM // 13:24   #5
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All of your builds need a shadow step tbh.
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Old Nov 05, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46   #6
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thx4lolz Igor.

Armor ignoring damage ftw, IATS! deserves more love

or rather: FH! is overrated on sins

The AP build I settled on is

Dagger 12+1+1
Deadly 10+1
CritStrikes 8
[assassin's promise][asuran scan][i am the strongest][critical agility][black mantis thrust][golden fang strike][wild blow][blades of steel]
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Old Nov 05, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51   #7
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[build prof=assas/any dagger=12+1 critic=8+1 deadly=10+1+1][Assassin's Promise][Shadow Fang][You move like a dwarf][Falling Lotus Strike][Trampling Ox][Falling Spider][Blades of Steel][Resurrection Signet][/build]

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/...Promise_Spiker

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Old Nov 05, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04   #8
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thx4lolz Igor.
Im srs, you are supposed to be killing fast right? So you need something to get you to your target fast, shadow steps even after the nerf seem to be the best choice because you dont want to lolrun to each of them. Honestly there is a great pve sinspike build, the one Selket has posted, use it.
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Old Nov 05, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17   #9
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I'm way too lazy to search for that. Link or die.

And no I don't need a shadowstep, cuz I'm in it's face. I can do that, because there's an Imbagon with me. Otherwise I'd be running MS/DB with SY! myself.

Could have at least backed me up on [i am the strongest]

EDIT: oooh, that one. Too bad the chain takes up so much room, I always like to abuse PvE skills

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Old Nov 05, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36   #10
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Link added to build I posted. Even though the build is already there for you to see just three posts up. :/
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Old Nov 06, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24   #11
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Shadow fang, sad that the crappest offensive shadowstep became the best coz anet sucks at nerfing.
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Old Nov 06, 2008, 10:45 AM // 10:45   #12
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Could have at least backed me up on [i am the strongest]

EDIT: oooh, that one. Too bad the chain takes up so much room, I always like to abuse PvE skills
lolwut, poor bobby.

The chain is powerful enough already. :P
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Old Nov 06, 2008, 11:00 AM // 11:00   #13
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lolwut, poor bobby.

The chain is powerful enough already. :P
The words 'powerful' and 'enough' shouldn't ever be in the same sentence.
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Old Nov 08, 2008, 02:14 PM // 14:14   #14
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The words 'powerful' and 'enough' shouldn't ever be in the same sentence.
Ok, bar selket show'd is more efficient. :P

Tho, for areas with mobs that cant be kd'd it wont perform as well. =/
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Old Nov 08, 2008, 02:40 PM // 14:40   #15
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Ok, bar selket show'd is more efficient. :P
....cuz of one lousy Shadowstep?

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Old Nov 11, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49   #16
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Im srs, you are supposed to be killing fast right? So you need something to get you to your target fast, shadow steps even after the nerf seem to be the best choice because you dont want to lolrun to each of them. Honestly there is a great pve sinspike build, the one Selket has posted, use it.
bobby is right. shadowstepping in pve is lame. the AI doesnt react to something running up to it like a actual player would. IF ur gonna shadowstep in pve....use [aura of displacement], but then thats a wasted elite slot in pve...
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Old Nov 11, 2008, 08:44 AM // 08:44   #17
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Hanging out in frontlines is never a good idea for a sin that doesnt have a good monk behind it, or atleast critical agility.
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Old Nov 11, 2008, 10:06 AM // 10:06   #18
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You guys misunderstand the way the build I posted works and the reasoning for why it is setup the way it is.

The Shadow Step covers Assassins Promise from being removed and allows for teleport in, spike target dead with quarterknock, teleport out back to relative safety style gameplay. The instant recharge and energy gain means you can instantly teleport back in and teleport out over and over again. Rinse and repeat. Why waste time running up to your target to hex them twice (you should always cover Assassins Promise) and then run around after them to complete your chain when you can teleport in and out and actually be effective doing it?

Aura of Displacement is a waste of an elite slot because it is negated by enchantment removal, which is more common than hex removal in PvE and has no positive effect if removed (ie: Deep Wound on target from Shadow Fang). Not to mention it has lengthy downtime if removed early with no way to quickly recharge it, has aftercast, and is a maintainable enchantment lowering your overall energy gain when attacking. The mechanics of Shadow Fang when paired with Assassins Promise are far stronger when used in conjunction together.

Try the build before bashing the way it works, you'll be very pleasantly surprised at how well it works in the right enviroment.

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Old Nov 11, 2008, 10:58 AM // 10:58   #19
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....cuz of one lousy Shadowstep?

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Yeah, only shadow step that gives dw and has no aftercast + more powerful combo and a free slot.
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Old Nov 11, 2008, 05:37 PM // 17:37   #20
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Yeah, only shadow step that gives dw and has no aftercast + more powerful combo and a free slot.
Thought you'd be the last person I'd have to tell Shadow Fang's DW is irrelevant >.>

Anyways, KDs = juice. Ain't gonna argue that. But how is that combo more powerful? I mean, I could also swap out a PvE skill for rez, but moar power = gud.

Also, read up. I ain't running this unless an Imbagon takes care of me. Shadowsteps are for those with <170AL.
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